Arave & Arrivee are related
By Todd Arave
"This year (2015) I did a Y-DNA test to see if I could confirm the relation of my last name (Arave) to other
individuals with the last name of Arrivee. My testing was intended to confirm genealogical findings that
my mother (Karen Arave) and others discovered when researching the Arave paternal line.
My 2nd great grandfather, Nelson Arave was orphaned at a young age. Nelson's father and grandfather
(my 3rd and 4th great grandfathers) drowned the same day in the St. Lawrence river, Quebec, Canada.1
Following their deaths, Nelson's mother lent Nelson to another family that promised to care for him.
With time, distance and poor methods of communication, as a result Nelson and his mother never
There had been many years the Arave family could not research their paternal ancestry beyond Nelson
Arave because of him being orphaned at a young age and very little information about his early years
Then in 1992 a death record was discovered for Nelson's father. The Y-DNA test I did was
meant to help confirm the family's research findings.
Each man gets his Y-DNA from his father, who got it from his father… all the way back. These Y
chromosomes are passed from father to son virtually unchanged. (If there were no changes, each man
would have exactly the same Y-DNA as "Adam" and with each other). These slight changes occur during
replication of cell DNA, but the majority of Y-chromosome DNA remains the same. When a mutation
does occur, all male descendants of the man carrying the changed Y-chromosome DNA will have that
mutation. When a second mutation occurs, all of that man’s descendants will carry that mutation as
well as the first one, and will be a distinct sub-group of the group with the first mutation. Because YDNA
is passed down from father to son, just as surnames are passed down in western societies, it is
pretty easy to visualize - and to track through genealogy. This is why Y-DNA projects are organized
around surnames. All men who share the same "common ancestor" will carry essentially the same YDNA
and receive tests results that are also essentially the same.
Mr. Arrivee and two other persons in the database had a genetic distance of 0 as associated to myself, Todd Arave.
(So, the test confirms that Arrivee is the correct branch of the Arave line backward from Nelson Arave.)
that it was worth spending my money to see if I could confirm a Y-DNA match between Arave and
I was pleased to get the result I got from doing the Y-DNA test. It confirmed my mother's and other's
research on the Arave family line. I hope by sharing my findings that other Arave's will know the validity
of their ancestry. I did send an email to the Mr. Arrivee that I had the 0 match (exact match) result. I
had requested of Mr. Arrivee that we correspond on our Family genealogy but as of this writing he has
not replied and it's been several months now."
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Posted by Lynn Arave, great-grandson of Nelson Arave.